Setting: A sm all in all South London Pub, The bloodless Swan, (Dirty Duck to the locals). Playing a game of snooker in the digest room is present-on Locke and Bishop George Berkeley. They are arguing.
George: Bugger off, you scrumpy-drinking idiot, I bought the last round! keister: Oh please! You clergymen are all the uniform, always trying to thread a free lunch. right away dig your hands into those noticeably deep pockets, and get me a chuffin pint! George: Fine, but coterminous time you come back from the land of clogs you better bring me a present.
Tight git.
arse: I heard that. And make sure its a prissy pint this time, none of this Lite crap.
George: God damn it, (looks up and raises his hand apologetically), you dont half moan. First its the weather now the beer. Whats next? John: Well, exposeing as you asked Ive got a chip of a problem with what you did to the ideas in my Essay in Human Understanding. I mean please, didnt you understand it? George: Of course I understood it. In fact I quite liked most of it.
John: Is that why you plagiarized it for your Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Understanding? Nice denomination by the way, very rolls off the tongue.
George: Bugger off you biting git, at least mine was a little bit creative. And I didnt plagiarize. I just took some of your better ideas and cracking them. Do you want me to explain the hard bits for you? John: Sure, I could do with a laugh. Its your shot by the way.
George: Ok. I send-off with the premise that all knowledge comes from sensory experience.
John: That sounds long-familiar¦ George: Shut up. Now because our knowledge is formed from the combination of our awareness impressions and nothing can populate without a top dog and cannot come through other than in a mind then it so follows that without a mind ? nothing can exist! Or, to put it another way, esse is percipi. That heart to be is to be perceived. John: I know what essi is percipi means.
George: Sorry I forgot that you went to school once. Anyway, take for example, that aristocratical eggs.
By watching it go in the pocket I am, in essence, allowing it to exist.
John: Your scoring another five points is what youre doing.
George: Be quiet, you might just learn something. So you see that the pictorial matter of the ball going in the pocket needed me to see it in fix for it to exist. Without me here to see it, it wouldnt be there.
John; Thats because if you werent here, we wouldnt be playing snooker in the first place.
George: amuse try and stay with me, the next bits important. So, because nothing can exist outside the mind then, by translation, primary qualities can not exist.
John: What! No youve got it all wrong. You hit to distinguish surrounded by ideas and the qualities in objects that cause the ideas in the first place. Firstly you have Primary qualities which are the qualities which do not change with wisdom: extension, motion, figure, solidity and number. These Primary qualities produce ideas in us in the form of secondary qualities.
Secondary qualities like colour, smell, taste, sound, heat and raw do vary with perception because they are within our mind. twain of these qualities are produced by tertiary qualities or the active power.
George: No! Think about it.
The way you defined Primary qualities means that they are outside of the mind but, in documentaryity, these properties are really just ideas in our minds. Take for instance your Primary station of motion.
John: Thats definitely a property of the object.
George: Shush. Now as you watch the last red ball speed across the remand and disappear, what are you really see? John: Im seeing that Im losing the game. I wish you wouldnt keep emphasizing your points by potting balls.
George: fail moaning. Now where was I, oh yes, motion. What your really seeing is a succession of ideas in your mind. Think about it motion is only perceived because of its         descent to other objects in our field of vision. Say for instance that the table was moving in the opposite direction to this black ball, and although the ball would still be moving into the pocket at the same speed you would perceive it as doing so twice as fast. That proves that not only are Primary qualities in the mind but also Ive won the game. Your round loser.
John: course about. By your definition then there is no real distinction between primary and secondary qualities? George: Thats right. By your definition Primary qualities would have to exist outside the mind and as we both know that is just not possible, or at least not perceivable to us mere mortals. by rights God? (looks up again).
John: I guess Ill get the beers in then.
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